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Chuck lived by three simple rules:  Red meat, barbequed rare; no quiche, ever; and, never use those ridiculous paper toilet seat covers.

August 22, 2007 at 10:10 AM ::
bakerina's avatar

Oh, Chuck.  You had me nodding at the toilet seat covers; you had me applauding at the red meat; but really, the quiche meme has to die the death it should have died 20 years ago.  No, really.  You like eggs, you like ham, you like cheese, you like pie.  If you were traumatized by some horrible restaurant lukewarm rubbery quiche studded with undercooked broccoli, it’s time to let it go.  (Eating quiche off the supine naked form off your wife/girlfriend/sig. other helps. ;)

bakerina on 08/22/07 at 11:05 AM ::
'mouse's avatar

What you are describing is what Chuck’s grandma made for him, cheese pie, which he loves, makes himself and devours regularly.  “Quiche” however, as well as just about any other similarly solid pedestrian and yummy food that its maker feels needs to be dolled up with a french name, is to be avoided (or more correctly, its cook (who would insist on being called a chef) is to be avoided), according to Chuck.

'mouse on 08/22/07 at 02:10 PM ::
Keith's avatar

I fear for poor Chuck’s life.  Let me be the first to predict that he’ll die in a restaurant bathroom stall, not the result of toilet germs, but from the chef’s hat the police find stuffed down his throat.

Keith on 08/22/07 at 02:44 PM ::
bakerina's avatar

Hmmmm.  I understand the point that Chuck is trying to make, but I still can’t agree with it.  Because I’m at a certain box factory right now, I don’t have to hand my copies of Larousse Gastronomique, The Oxford Companion to Food or The Cambridge World History of Food, and thus cannot trace the development and/or etymology of the quiche/cheese pie.  What I can do is disagree vigorously with the notion that French nomenclature equals effete snobbery.  In France, particularly in northern France, where eggs and dairy are plentiful, quiche is not haute cuisine, but rather la cuisine de la grand-mere—yep, that means Grandma food.  More often than not, if you ask a three-star French chef what his favorite dishes are, he will not speak of the rarefied food he and his peers make, but rather wax poetic about the coq au vin, the boeuf aux carrottes, the roast chicken and buttered spinach, and yes, the quiche, of his mother, his grandmothers, his aunts.

Methinks that Chuck needs to cast off the shackles of his Francophobia.  Calling out snobbery is a fine and laudable thing, but equating French terminology with snobbery is not.  In fact, I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that if someone *is* using words like “quiche” and “chef” to sound more refined, what you have is not a pretentious Frenchman, but rather a pretentious American, riding the coattails of a grand old cuisine while refusing to do the legwork.

While I’m at it, let me rant a bit about how only pretenders call anybody who can bandy about a knife a chef.  The word chef doesn’t actually translate to “cook,” but rather, “chief.” The French word for cook is cuisinier (or cuisiniere, for female cooks), and any cook worth his/her salt knows the difference between a cuisinier and a chef.

(looks around sheepishly)

Sorry.  As you were.

bakerina on 08/22/07 at 02:52 PM ::
'mouse's avatar

An interview with Chuck:

Interviewer:  Did you see what she said?  Do you take issue with it?
Chuck:  Yes.  And Nope.

Interviewer:  Could you elaborate?
Chuck:  Yep.

Interviewer:  Please.  Explain.
Chuck:  I don’t know any pretentious French men or French women.  I bet if I ever met a real nice, down-to-earth French person who spoke good English, they’d call it “chicken in wine” or “cheese pie” and probably add “like my grandma used to make.”

Interviewer:  So, ignoring for a second all the fancy French that Bakerina just threw around, it sounds like you two are in complete agreement and that you were talking entirely about pretentious Americans.
Chuck: Yep.  Buncha BMW-driving pansies that don’t know shit from Shinola.

Interviewer:  Can I ask how you feel about English food?
Chuck: (laughing)

'mouse on 08/22/07 at 06:17 PM ::
bakerina's avatar

Touche.  ;)

bakerina on 08/24/07 at 05:17 PM ::

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